Thursday, September 17, 2009

Can You Pray This Prayer?



DANG!

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Job was weathly beyond his needs but also a very righteous man. Why the trend of encouraging or influencing readers to do the bare minimum to get by. I prefer this prayer. Lord, mold me into the man you want me to be. May your will be done in my life. If you bless me, give me the ability to give those blessings back. Thank you and forgive me for my sins.

tom rundel said...

Dear anonymous again,

This is scripture. Therefore it is a good prayer to pray. It is in the Bible. Again, I don't remember criticizing rich people, and I like your prayer too. Pray it. It is good.

May I point out that you seem really defensive and quick to speak on this subject. What is your background? Why the walls?

Anonymous said...

My apologies if the two comments seem defensive, thats print/email/whatever. Meant as more of thought points. Not trying to be defensive, but I guess it comes that way. Regardless, the judge story on the surface is kind and giving. I love the idea of looking for the need around us and helping...not just wanting to. I also like the prayer relying on God for everything day to day rather than ourselves. That is how it should be. All great, no doubt. Just don't take/steal it, far from weathly, but enjoy giving.

I just read in a hunting magazine recently that a reader felt special tags should be given to those who wouldn't necessarily be able to donate the hundreds of thousands of dollars typically donated to get one. In a way saying that the guy who donated/gave the money didn't deserve the chance to fill that tag...rather he should be obligated to donate/give it to someone else. Why? He gave to help support/promote and sustain hunting...why should he then have to give the tag away? Is our society really starting to go down that road?

Not so much rich vs. poor question/comments, but more go do your best, encourage hard work, earn it, save for the rainy day, get ahead so we can be the good samaritan. Not only to help but to use some of our savings so we can help. Perhaps doesn't make sense...but thats fine to. Keep up the good work.

tom rundel said...

I agree with you that we should not steal from the rich to give to the poor, but what should we do with someone who hoards resources?

I also agree that it is not a rich vs poor issue, but a covetous one. I have seen people in poverty be more covetous than some well to do people.

But one thing that I think you may have missed in these postings is the question, CAN you pray this prayer? Key word is CAN. Do we have the ability in our heart to pray this prayer?

Can we speak as Paul did in Philippians: "...I have learned how to be content with whatever I have. I know how to live on almost nothing or with everything. I have learned the secret of living in every situation, whether it is with a full stomach or empty, with plenty or little. For I can do everything through Christ, who gives me strength."

Covetousness is not an outer issue, it is an inner issue. It is a soul issue.

The heart of these posts is to make us aware that we are all responsible for each other. We need to be helping each other. We are not islands. I cannot make a man care for another, (the wrong interpretation of the court ruling) but I can raise the awareness that we are all responsible for each other (the heart of the lesson of the court ruling. Opening our eyes to how we are all responsible for the well being of each other.)

So I agree that we should not impose that upon the rich, it does not deal with the issues of covetousness and callousness at hand, but we can try to open our eyes, and the eyes of those around us to our own selfishness, and change for the better.

Hope you are getting to the heart of what I am trying to communicate.

P.S. your anonymity is killing me, who are you? How do we know each other?